Does your computer support PCI-Express 5.0 SSDs?

[Selaya]

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*if interested, I highly recommend trying to find an archived version of "There's Nothing Wrong with Optane" written by an investment researcher.
PCM and 'emergent' memory technologies have companies like Intel and IBM figuratively salivating over AI/MI use of such. Think of it like James Cameron having scripts and ideas 'written up', but having to wait for CGI-effects tech to advance enough to implement (The Abyss, T2, etc.)

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4544653-there-is-nothing-wrong-with-optane-and-3d-xpoint ?
very enlightening.

 

[An0maly_76]

This could apply to any board then, including ones with matching PCIE spec, the breakage you describe wouldnt be down to a lower speed PCIE, as by design they are backwards compatible. Probably bios related.

It seems to be a thing more with name-brand prebuilts like Lenovo and such. My M71E's H61 board was limited to PCIE1 and did not support beyond a GTX1060.

 

[LabRat 891]

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4544653-there-is-nothing-wrong-with-optane-and-3d-xpoint ?
very enlightening.

Right Author, right topic, right name.
TY for posting a link.

I read it in a 'forum' format, which had already gone through several self-censorings 'editorial changes'.
Originally the author was much more openly making insinuations/connections.
IMO, he was just connecting the dots laid in front of him; I largely agreed with his more 'controversial' opinions. Then again, I think the author and I are both 'biased' fans of Optane / Ovonyx / PCJunctions as a technology.
One might still be able to find earlier versions archived, but the article in its final state still 'goes over the important facts'.

Here's probably the overall best part/summary

Stephen Breezy Research - There Is Nothing Wrong With Optane And 3D Xpoint - Oct. 04, 2022
It seems clear to me that the results of this protracted court battle may have stripped Micron and Intel of rights to 3D Xpoint / Optane. However, as I've expressed previously, I believe that much of the value from ECD/Ovonyx is AI, photonics, and non-silicon computing. I believe that Intel's much-delayed Loihi AI and Micron's much-delayed Automata AI are next on the chopping block as they may very well be leveraging ECD technology in the form of Ovonic Cognitive Computing.

 

[Selaya]

i mean, it makes sense and would explain the current observations (optane pricing going up generationally instead of down), so there's that

 

[LabRat 891]

i mean, it makes sense and would explain the current observations (optane pricing going up generationally instead of down), so there's that

more directly-related to this topic: The current 'status' of Optane is especially tragic*.
One of the 'biggest let downs' of Optane SSDs had been a lacklustre raw throughput. Gen5 PCIe would've allowed ample bandwidth, etc. for a 'halo-tier' SSD.

Tangential: Isn't PCIe 5.0 inter-related somehow w/ CXL?

*As a technology. Intel can pound sand for all I care.

 

[chrcoluk]

I just realised all of our PC's are Gen 5.0 PCI-E SSD ready


Just not at PCI-E 5.0 speeds
(The power of backwards compatibility and PCI-E cards/USB enclosures)

Misleading poll! Bring out the pedantic pitchforks!

Brilliant.

 

[Selaya]

more directly-related to this topic: The current 'status' of Optane is especially tragic*.
One of the 'biggest let downs' of Optane SSDs had been a lacklustre raw throughput. Gen5 PCIe would've allowed ample bandwidth, etc. for a 'halo-tier' SSD.

Tangential: Isn't PCIe 5.0 inter-related somehow w/ CXL?

*As a technology. Intel can pound sand for all I care.

the p5800x (and apparently, new to the block: p5810x) can saturate 4x4 on reads, and the p5810x got a write upgrade to 6,000mb/s; those are pretty impressive numbers now (certainly ain't comparable to the 1st gens; yes those had very lacking sequentials, and you can generally see people dumping them on fleabay or something, presumably bc upgrading to 2nd gen is just so appealing due to their vastly improved performance)

 

[SunMaster]

I have two fast "test winners" in my current computer - one WD black 850, and one Kingston Fury Renegade. They both operate on pcie-4. After buying those I've often wondered if they really make a meaningful difference compared to two fast pcie-3 drives. I'm sure the pcie-5 drives will be great, but I'm not sure if the added performance will make an actual difference for me. Just getting an nvme-drive was an enormous boost in the first place.

 

[Blitzkuchen]

Yea for sure it support PCIe 5.0 SSD but only with PCIe 3.0 Speed, i see no usecase for me to upgrade from Socket 1200 and mostly Comet Lake:
I have the following CPU: Celeron 5905, I3 10100, I5 10400F and a 10700F

Even my 10400F is limited from my best GPU (Arc 770)

 

[Keivz]

Answer was no until last Friday (this poll has been up for awhile). I have sata ssd, nvme 3, and ‘fast’ nvme 4 drives and in blind everyday usage I probably wouldn’t be able to tell one from the other.

 

[spiral718]

Still rocking my Asus Hero Vi, LGA1150 i7 4770k, DDR3 8gigs, PCIEx3, Samsung 840Evo 512gb System Bios 8/2014 and an RTX 2060 super. Gpu hits 90-100% usage for most of these games and CPU hits around 50-60% usage. Currently playing Shadow Of The Tomb Raider, Jedi Fallen Order. Replaying Dead Space 3 and Splinter Cell Double Agent. Recently played and beat Red Dead 2, Far Cry 5 and the Witcher 3.

So to answer the question twice, PCIEx5 is honestly not needed yet.

 

[bobbybluz]

Yes, ASRock calls it a "Hyperdrive" slot.

 

[LabRat 891]

Yes, ASRock calls it a "Hyperdrive" slot.

Pretty sure it's just a touch of 'tism but I find that name amusingly fitting:

-Most fictional depictions of a "hyperdrive" I've read into have technobabble about n-dimensional vibrations or quantum oscillations.
-If you've ever had the opportunity to be near an operating NVMe SSD (in open air or, in your hand) you'd be surprised at the amount of noise (vibrations) it generates. I'd imagine a gen5 drive increases the frequency of the vibrations even higher.

 

[Dk-denmark]

Since pcie 5 is backward compatible, then yes

 

[Lucas_]

no use anyhow for the time being or in the near future.

 

[Blitzkuchen]

No usecase anywhere, Randomized 7,8GB/s in Quedepth of 4K 121MB/s.
We should talk about 4K Quedepth with 4K on 7,8GB/s and not the random SQ.